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Gavelkind Succession Example[edit]

Petty Kingdom of York

Primary title: Duchy (or Petty Kingdom) of York
Eldest son: Sælræd
2nd son: Sæxbald

Due to some weird history, Sælræd is Count of Chester (in Lancaster), but he is the vassal of the King of Norway. We do not have the title of Duchy of Lancaster.

Title de jure ruler Heir
Duchy of York - Sælræd
County of Lincoln York Sælræd
Duchy of Mercia - Sæxbald
County of Hereford Mercia Sæxbald
County of Warwick Mercia Sæxbald
County of Lancaster Lancaster Sæxbald
County of Derby Lancaster Sælræd


1) Since Sælræd is the vassal of a King, will he remain a vassal when he inherits the Duchy of York title?

In this case he did not, he became independent (and took Chester with him). Would this have been different under other circumstances, e.g. if Sælræd was vassal of the King of England (de jure ruler of Duchy of York).

2) Why did the County of Lancaster go to the 1st heir and Derby go to the 2nd?

3) What happens to vassals outside York and Mercia? (e.g. Gloucster.)

In this case Glouster remained a vassal of York. Would all such vassals go to the court of York, or would they be split between the courts of York and Mercia?

4) How would things be different with 3 sons?

Baron-level vassal opinion on succession law change[edit]

The current wiki states that they shouldn't care, but the leige's succession law also applies to their own titles, possibly changing who their heir is. I could see why they may be upset.

Crown Authority[edit]

The current wiki states "Not required for duchy level and lower." It's wrong : the Crown Authority of the kingdom or empire applies.

Yeah, the note wasn't clear: I think it refers to independent counts and dukes with non-existing de jure kingdom, cf Crown_Authority#No_Crown_Authority_Law. --Romulien (talk) 18:09, 25 August 2014 (CEST)

Republics also disinherit[edit]

I played as Eastern Roman Emperor and conquered Venice, then I usurped the title and gave it to my son. This disqualified him from succession. 17:46, 27 March 2015 (UTC).

Also, another note: Feudal elective should change its name to "Elective", only, as it is the game calls this succession law. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (Talk) 01:31, 18 May 2015 (WEST)

Verify opinion modifiers[edit]

It looks like the opinion modifiers for various succession laws may no longer be accurate or I might be mis-reading something.
Example: Seniority currently states
Eldest -30, children -20, dynasty +10, vassals -10
Whereas in the laws configuration it shows
Eldest -15, children -10, dynasty +5, vassals -5
So either there is some sort of doubling going on, or it was halved in a patch somewhere
— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:35, 18 March 2017‎ (CET)